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trillion in debt. president obama will add ten, 11, 12 trillion in debt. when he is done with this. >> for years, president obama running when he was senator, running for president always said that the bush tax cuts were only for the rich and only benefit the rich. now he says that the republicans are holding hostage for the lower and middle class. the tax cuts will expire. hypocrisy knows no bounds. >> bob: you just keep shooting your mouth off over and over about this stuff. i said if they came up with a deal on inflation adjustment on social security it would save money. >> dana: cola adjustment is not a big deal. >> bob: yes, you talk about a significant amount of money over ten years. here is the problem. means testing for medicare. >> eric: the problem is everything that -- [ overtalk ] >> eric: everything on the table won't solve the debt problem. >> andrea: that is right. >> eric: won't stop it. >> bob: what will it? >> eric: fiscal cliff will. >> andrea: the plan that the democrats put forward is to give tax breaks to business owners. these are gimmicky schemes. cola adjus
student loan debt is held by the government. >> dana: president obama made it more so. he took out private lending last year. we have kids that want college experience. the big college experience. they finished. they can't find jobs. unemployment rate is 40% area. they can't find jobs and they can't pay back the student loans. when it's all to this point and so bad, the government usually will come in and bail everybody out. so then you have no incentive to pay it anyway. >> eric: they said the pel program will go i away or be trashed. we found out today the pel program, obama is bringing it back. 18 semesters now down to 12. he is cutting the program. >> andrea: are you surprised? >> eric: no. the other thing about the student debacle is the universities are taking advantage. we have not learned anything from fre freddie and fannie but the universities have. if they have a government to say we'll make the cheap credit readily available you don't to pay back, what are they doing? they will hike up our tuition every year. the history of bubbles is an entry call course, i believe, but they a
. >> wall street they side with president obama when it comes to control of the debt ceiling. john boehner says it won't happen. >> i made it clear to the president every time we get to debt limit we need to cut reforms greater than increase in debt limit. only way the political process to produce more change than what it would if left alone. >> brenda buttner joins us. why would anyone want to give one machine power over this. >> the reason that wall street does it, wing thing it hates is uncertainty. if you remember when the talks went on and fell apart there was a downgrade, threat of default. wall street was up. and down. they want to know that someone can raise the debt limit without a prolonged battle. the battles in congress do affect wall street. >> some would say this means, bring it on in. add more. pile it up more. there would be no control. >> yes. boehner actually said in the last sound bite something important. the only leverage republicans have with the president they have control over raising that debt limit. especially what the president would like to do is say he can rais
-800-medicare. >>> a republican party relaunch. obama is bad for the economy message didn't work and it's not likely to resonate going forward. home prices climbing, household debt down, consumer confidence up, jobs are coming back. breaking from that grover norquist anti-tax pledge is only going to take the gop so far if they can even deal with it. so can republicans find an economic message that resonates with voters? to find out, i spoke with stephen moore from the "wall street journal". >> looking forward, not backward, the republican dangers, there may be an accelerating economy. you can't simply say obama is bad. you have to have an affirmative message. it has to be economically inclusive. that means i think ruling away from the myth of the heroic entrepreneur as the main hero and also the main victim of the american economy and understand that the people who have been leading big companies are actually doing pretty well. the harm is to the middle. >> stephen, talk to me about this. the fact is we do think the entrepreneur as heroic in the u.s. how do you square that circle? >> i
as sanguine as you are with obama care and the tax rates going up and also the big burden of the debt. but you know, republicans have to have a growth message. and i just don't think they articulated any kind of alte alternative. david is right. all they talked about was obama's policies aren't working. but if you ask americans today what are republicans for, they don't have a solution. education, by the way, is a good one. i think republicans should be talking about choice. charter schools, vouchers, anything that give minorities more opportunities. >> david? >> look, i'm in favor of the republicans being a low tax party. here's the danger. when republicans say taxes, they mean income taxes. 80% of americans now pay more in payroll taxes than they pay in income taxes. payroll taxes will go up at the end of the year. the payroll tax holiday will end. that's a big tax increase for everybody. 80% of americans pay more. and where is the republican plan to hold the line on those people's taxes? if taxes only mean the tax, the income tax portion of tax burden for four-fitz four fifths of the countr
cuts and tax hikes. house republicans and president obama need to strike a deal on reducing the national debt. they have soundly rejected a white house offer that included $1.6 trillion in revenue, $400 billion in medicare and other entitlement savings, as well as a permanent increase in the debt limit among other things. so far, the rhetoric has not softened. treasury secretary tim geithner arriving on capitol hill for high level talks, most notably with house speaker john boehner. >> good morning, everyone. >> how did it go? just listen. >> despite the claims that the president supports a balanced approach, the democrats have yet to get serious. about real spending cuts. >> a much gloomier assessment from the initial prethanksgiving huddle at the white house. boehner described his meeting with geithner as frank and direct, the same way he described his phone call with the president the night before. and for the past two weeks there has been no substantive progress. >> most public statements have been optimistic, confident, hopeful. we're all sensing a very different tone f
obama. i came away from those meetings feeling that these guys really were serious about the debt. they were serious about reducing the deficit and the need to get on with it and had some sense of urgency. they were serious about raising revenue from higher income tax payers, and that includes raising rates, with some flexibility there. they were serious about reducing spending and i would say to you wall, you have written a lot about the tax side of the equation. we need to read more about the spending side of the equation. they are equally important if we are going to get a balanced plan. they're serious about reducing spending -- that would include reducing spending on health care entitlements. they're serious about protecting a class -- you can really feel the president's passion on that. they were serious about restoring confidence in the short and long term so our economy can grow and create jobs. i think the president has always been for a balanced approach come as alan and i have. our message to the president and the congress from day one has been the same -- that is the p
majo v that i argument. it is long past time to get rid of the debt ceiling and the modified mcconnell/obama plan is as good a way as any to do it. it gives lawmakers a way it avoid a fiscal cliff or fiscal curve. it can end flirtations with fiscal suicide. that the last word. i'm ezra klein in for ed o'donnell. >>> the president has returned from his trip. chris matthews and "hardball" is next. >>> a no-brainer for boehner. let's play "hardball." ♪ good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. let me the start tonight with this. somebody has got to break it to mr. boehner, your side lost. romney, remember him? he's the guy who ran on the rich man's platform. the hands off the big boys' ticket. he's the guy who said his fellow 2%ers have your back. mr. boehner, ye of limited memory, the voters looked this issue directly in the eye, they heard your guy, romney, playing palace guard for the plutocrats, and they said i think i'll vote for the guy who is looking out for the middle class. i think i will let that guy go back to bain or whatever. time for mr. boehner to stop protecting the rich
that the boehner rule, i. efrmgts any extension of the debt limit must be matched by matching spending cuts the norm from now on. seems president obama does not want to play that game as he said. walking away from the press conference today withes the gop leadership on capitol hill, a x alex, they're still engaging in the trench warfare. i asked speaker boehner about the $250,000 bush tax cuts, all the polling shows the country will think republicans are to blame if we go over the fiscal cliff, six out of ten voters in november said the tax rates should go up, how much longer can he afford to politically keep this pledge and he said look, you heard it there, the rates when we close the revenues, loopholes will go up on the rich people. that still is the mindset. what's interesting, is talking to republicans leaving the house conference gop conference this morning, there is a lot of support for speaker boehner. there aren't cracks like there were during the debt limit where he had a faction that was lining up against him wholeheartedly. even after yesterday we heard all the stuff of fallout
and the president's remains taxes and how the government can generate more revenue to pay down the debt. >> rates have to rise on the top 2%. there's no other way to do it. >> reporter: president obama says his plan will raise taxes on the rich, bringing in $1.6 trillion. republicans want to close tax loopholes and eliminate deductions, which they say will raise $800 billion in new revenue. >> the president has a huge responsibility to work together with congress and find a solution to avert the fiscal cliff. >> reporter: and they say it's now up to the president to find a plan that can pass both chambers of congress. so now that each side has rejected the other's first offer, it's going to be interesting and important to watch the timing of the next offer on the part of the white house to really try to figure out, terrell, how far both sides are willing to take us toward that cliff. >> and which side has the edge at this point. susan mcginnis in washington this morning. thank you so much. >>> iran says this morning it's captured a united states drone flying over iranian air space. the drone was
. how fair he is and helps to the middle class and overwhelm the system with debt. explode the system with debt and entitlement and get torch the knees begging government to save them. every step of the way. watch it that's what barack obama has done. he pulled the professor in front of the nation and no one stopped him. i have been saying it every step of the way. >> wayne allyn root is a libertarian different than a conservative? >> yeah. it's a little more moderate and tolerant on social issues which are almost meaningfulless. what difference does it make if you have gay marriage if you are gay and unemployed. what difference does it make if you have an abortion and you are employed. the answer is what matters is jobs. jobs and the economy. and so, you know, i think from every measure standard obama's a failure. back to libertarian. republicans had the chance with george bush. he was a failure. terrible president. the only guy worse than bush is barm. back to back you've had two terrible presidents. the difference is one supported capitalism one without any questions is socialist.
but the economy will roar back. maybe, just maybe, zombies for obama will realize he has no clue when it comes to the economy. or we don't double dip to the recession. and the debt dissolves to pay the way for the 2016 conservatives. take your chance and take medicine now. over the long run, better for the economy. >> kimberly: call his bluff. be strong at the negotiating table to make sure you can do what is best in interest of the country. these are tough time and you have to stand your ground. if you look at the recent polling, obama dropped three points. in polling with the gallup poll. people aren't happy with him anyway. >> eric: there is a counterproposal, around $800 billion in revenue through tax reform. they go through spending cuts. none of the spending cuts in obama's plan. are we so far apart we will go up or is there a meeting ground? 'canes is smart of the republicans. last week, geithner to the treasury secretary and laughed at. across the board, left and right commentators said i think president obama is overplaying the hand here. they have a plan to get him what he campaigned
that entity, blame, blame, blame. if i look at the first administration of president barack obama, there was a lot of inherentiiting of debt. i'm not saying i agree or disagree. there's many that believe blaming someone else is just a way to shirk leadership. i'll tell you what. here's the problem with the blame game. when blame becomes an issue, it takes the empathy out. it takes the civility out and it green lights sustaining dysfunctional patterns. i'll give you an example. once you start blaming for example, let's take grover norquist. he's good target. once you start blaming grover norquist for a pledge made to get elected by representatives, you are totally doing a bait and switch. all of a sudden the issue of entitlementsbowles. why? they will look straight in the camera and say the gorilla in the room, entitlements. but when the blame game happens and you basically do bait and switch, you create a red herring. in this case, the red herring, and it is red, are tax issues. or taxing the rich even though the real issue you're avoiding, the big one, are the entitlements and th
made a real legacy that said i accept the debt deal that obama and i are negotiating which is essentially his opening offer now? wouldn't that have been the legacy that he could have rested his hat on? >> it would have been interesting. he essentially attempted to be a representative of his caucus rather than a leader of his caucus. >> exactly. >> it would have been interesting. i think he could have either been a great leader or burned and gone -- been taken down. it was a 50/50 proposition. >> all right. matt lewis, thank you so much. >> thank you, matt. >> fascinating. incredible read, "herding cats." >>> still ahead -- it's just cruel. i felt bat readid reading it. you know where i stand. >> cures cancer. >> let's see. >> okay. >>> coming up, we're going to bring in republican congressman tom cole who broke ranks with his party over the tax debate last week. can't wait to talk to him and get his insights. also, we'll be talking foreign policy with national security adviser dr. brzezinski. keep it right here on "morning joe." music is a universal language. but when i was
. >> eric: i can't tell you how many shows i stayed until 11:59, live show for the debt creeling to hit or the government to shut down. government would shut down, 19:55 they fixed it. obama is say nothing, i need more. boehner is saying we are further than we have ever been. >> they know where they will meet in the middle. >> dana: i think they are farther apart than ever, actually. >> eric: you do? >> dana: i do. does it show you wouldn't -- >> kimberly: absolutely not. >> kimberly: bolling is the last to leigh the building and first to enter. maybe he doesn't leave at all. >> screaming headlines on fox news.com. this is not a game. clearly frustrated. you must be good in chess. you two steps ahead of everybody, what you just diagnosed. i manual you're good. the president is also playing -- >> bob: can suck up. >> brian: i usually wait for the breaks. but i just do things that threw me a little bit. the president would not go to hawaii if the deal is not done. he has the deal. that the republicans will sign. >> dana: if they were able to go, the east wing said we are going to hawaii,
go over the debt ceiling, we didn't. this is the stage we're always in where president obama gave an offer he knew was a negotiating plan, you negotiate from the left. mcconnell gave an offer on friday that was very much on the right. it plays out in the next month, i think people get closer to a deal. lindsey graham, i don't think was saying we'll go over the cliff for sure. he's also posturing himself. that wasn't a comment, that was a posturing move. >> we know one of the most dangerous places is between senator graham and a television camera. give me your headline really quickly, perry. >> my headline is "obama delays vacation but negotiations are continuing and progressing and moving towards a deal." a deal will happen at some point, but obama always has his vacation delayed. i was covering the president a couple years ago and my hawaii trip got delayed a couple days. life went on. >> you were not happy. >> i was, you know, i was not happy, it's true, craig. >> what's your headline, sir? "markets down, party trade blame as fiscal cliff talks fail." >> you're so gloom and doom
president obama for the next four years? he's got a much different mentality. >> i'm a social liberal fiscal conservative. my party doesn't really exist. i thought if the nation got burr rid under trillions of debt, there would be nothing to talk about. we wouldn't have a social agenda. >> we're close to it. >> 16 on our way to 20. then you lose options. you go over an edge where you're only services debt. today our interest expense is like $120 billion or so. 4% on $20 is $500 billion. that overwhelms all the discretionary spending. somebody has to get serious in washington. i'm hoping obama is coming to be a great president, which has come to the center. he inherited a bad economy. there's no doubt, right? but we haven't made a lot of progress. we haven't given business a lot of confidence. we have $1 trillion -- >> antagonistic with business. >> we would call it antagonistic. a lot of listening but not a lot of hearing. i'm supposed to go -- i won't say that. >> you're going to go to the white house. >> maybe. >> why would you go to the white house? you think he's listening? all these pho
rates they want, the medicare cuts they want, the trillion dollars in spending cuts president obama agreed to, hundreds of billions in additional cuts, ending the payroll tax break, ending jobless benefits and they get the opportunity to create a new debt ceiling crisis in a few months. that's on the republican side, what the republicans get in their proposal. what do the democrats get in their proposal? they get this. a promise to end undefined tax deductions and loopholes of some kind at some point maybe next year e. ta da! a fair and balanced middle ground. >> unfortunately, the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. >> yes. balance. here's the amazing part, though. after congressional republicans released their plan yesterday, which gives them everything they want and promises democrats that they might get something undefined that they might want maybe some time in the future. we'll talk about it later. after they put forth that sweet deal, this was the reaction from the beltway's conservative class. this is genius. sad ly, this plan leaves conservatives wanting.
president obama, we have seen record deficits and a record debt accumulate, and yet he keeps demanding that we have seen record deficits and a record debt accumulate, and yet he keeps demanding that we raise taxes to pay for more spending. this will only hurt our economy. ernst and young has done an analysis of the president's proposal and said it will cost several hundreds thousands of jobs. there is a better way and the speaker has laid it out. it is an approach that calls for tax reform by reforming the tax code and passing responsible spending cuts in order to get our fiscal house in order. that's what america wants. this is our opportunity to do the big things. this is our moment to provide that leadership that america desperately wants and we stand here ready to take the action necessary. >> the american people are hurting right now and now is the moment where we need to step up to the plate and solve the problem. cann't know how any of us look our kids and grandkids in the eye and explain to them that we aren't willing to pay for the things we are enjoying today but just going t
that is a permanent solution to avoid a debt ceiling nightmare, like we had last year. here's what president obama said when he spoke to business ceos about this earlier today. >> i want to send a very clear message to people here, we are not going to play that game next year. if congress in any way suggests that they're going to tie negotiations to debt ceiling votes, and take us to the brink of default once again, as part of a budget negotiation, which, by the way, we have never done in our history, until we did it last year, i will not play that game. because we have got to break that habit before it starts. >> reporter: so just to be very clear, the white house sees this as three steps. a fiscal deal would include, one, some measure that would raise revenue. tax raising. two, a sequester, that's all those budget cuts that are going to kick in, some way to save money through spending cuts, probably on medicare changes. and then, three, some solution for the debt ceiling, both in the short-term and then some permanent solution to avoid that kind of nightmare repeating itself over and over, brook
the white house learned during the first term is that there are some things that work for obama and some things that don't. sitting down at a table with john boehner as essentially equals did not turn out as well as they might have hoped with the debt ceiling talks in 2011. but what did work was that winter when the president went to the country and argued for extending the payroll tax holiday and developed pressure outside of washington, he was a lot more successful. so they have two goals here. one is to keep the pressure coming from outside the beltway and the second is to make sure that this is not a negotiation between the president and boehner, that they want the president essentially floating above this. >> robert, when we talk and i know you had a chance to hear what congresswoman black will to say about trying to find the right balance here, while a majority of americans, say they go completely support raising taxes on wealthier americans, there is also a majority support that says we don't want to see earned benefits messed with, we don't want to see the medicare eligibility ag
to the edge of the fiscal cliff. and house republicans had harsh words for president obama after he released a budget proposal suggesting more taxes, more spending. >> he wants the power to raise the debt ceiling without congressional approval and they cannot issue an edict like a monarchy, congress, congress, congress is in charge of the purse. the government has gone wild. >> dave: in that congressman's words has they become a monarchy, explaining from texas, congressman poe. >> good morning, dave. >> dave: how has this administration become like a monarchy? >> well, the president in his proposal basically said, turn everything over to me, give me the power or let me take the power to raise the debt ceiling, that seems to be quite arrogant on his part and if he's serious about it, they be what he's really saying is, i want to spend more money. that's how i want to solve the fiscal cliff problem, is spending more taxpayer money. so, the president doesn't have the authority to raise the debt ceiling, he shouldn't have the authority. congress, as you all mentioned earlier is in charge of the
obama's going to speak to the business round table today about the ongoing fiscal cliff talks. boeing ceo jim mcnearney says members want a balanced solution in debt issues, including meaningful and comprehensive tax and entitlement reforms. well, you're not going to get that. anyway -- sorry, jim. we're going to be watching facebook stock today. the company will join the nasdaq -- got to watch it. i'm trying to rise. trying. the nasdaq 100 -- >> sinking, sinking -- >> like a snake. replaces tech firm emphasis, which is moving the listing to the big board. and let's get a check on the markets which are indicated higher today up about 50 points. overseas, let's check out asia and europe. there's a -- .4%. >> had a big move. >> yeah. big move on the hang seng and green arrows everywhere. let's check out europe quickly. also fractional gains there, up about a third of a point each. >>> steny hoyer is striking a conciliatory tone saying both sides will need to bend to avoid the fiscal cliff. congressman hoyer joins us from washington with more this morning, and sir, it's great to see you.
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